Design Critique 06 | It's too late to rethink

The Plan Critique a short series for the first time in history that my first thought was that a polite, one-sentence reply to a letter sent to the plans, but then yet I chose to analyze the drawings, because
every household carries a lesson
and this lesson is not dependent on the size, or whether you like it or not? The drawings are much says it all - often without commentary
(Although I like better when something is due to the life of the plan, how to participate in the development, what were the boundary conditions, instructions that you have given the designer). The original article title was: "There's not too late to think again", but then I received the following letter:
Dear Nicholas!
About the design:
ground floor plan of the development of a very close relationship characterized by a design builder. We got asked for amt. Very much consideration of how we live, and also how to live with even smarter. The appearance of a what inspired plan downloaded from the Internet. The designers have a very nice house surprised us, it's in the Annex to v1.24. It also gave approval to, and, unfortunately, only after we asked for a quotation for implementation. It was a mistake. Perhaps you can see, this is the roof design does not come cheap. We decided, modify. The kivitelezőnkkel consultation and a smart software coined sown at home, all together with a simpler, less expensive, but hopefully not much "worse" case. This is v2.6. Our library is now here. The construction has started a week ago.
The plot is about 3.5 m drop diagonally. This caused many headaches when installing the house. Colourless Feed or not, was the basic question. What we have decided not to, assuming the building in a corner of a little over-emergence of what we are trying to correct garden and landscaping.
Waiting for your comments, thanks, MT
When I looked at these plans, it is the first impression was that
was not designed by architects,
(Because it is very visible, but less interesting), and the second is that (house) design inexperienced (but it is interesting and really a problem).
The plans included the names quickly banged the Hungarian Chamber of Engineers Member eyepiece and confirmed the hunch, the plan-making is not an architect, but also a civil engineer educated static, whose Hungarian Architects Chamber membership because there is planning permission to be (for it never occurred to me that you may not even he made the plans and just signed ....)
The site slopes diagonally to the opposite corners of the building is more than 1.5 m height difference, so installation of the building,
terrain matching is essential
it affects everything. The plot between the corners of 3.5 m height difference, which effectively raises the need for tuning half-full level, although many people do not like to be in such a situation can be achieved almost exclusively by direct contact with garden and over-charging and cuts. I do not accidentally, since it also went through the Plan review in a very ingeniously designed szinteltolásos house parties . To more easily understood the gravity of the problem, I made a rough diagonal cross-section:
this was necessary because the designer does not portray the real heights, and uploads to the site plan or cuts, not the floor plan or the facades. Assuming that the corners of the building 0.5 meters away from slamming, so the opposite corner terrace is more than 1.7 meters will be highlighted (and not from 1.25, as included in the plan). Such a strong lejtésnél not just in the immediate environment, but also the entire plot width should also be indicated, as required, to the edge of the site do not change our mood of the land height.
Such a significant enhancement in which the number of different designers tried to hide in the hills terrain matching for filling in the gaps will be the end of it is unusable slopes occur on the property. Since this does not have any plan or drawing of the site, so this could be called up to the builder misled, which is quite strange, but somehow understandable (?), If one kind of design knowledge.
simple structure can be simple house
Anyone who encounters a lot of basic drawings, to the first cursory examination, the eye discovers how sophisticated and we are building long skeleton of the building / structure? It immediately came up with the contradiction that while this is a simple building mass, but for some reason beyond the walls of the structure are komplikálva. To simplify, it's a kéttraktusos, középfőfalas house, which is the central main wall - in front of me totally unknown reason - it was broken - complicating this floor plan and also to the structure - that while any floor plan or other benefits are not derived from it. A former Tervkritikában no surprise I observed that
"... All weird when I say that to me (!) A floor plan at first glance graphic" pleasant "feel (no longer on the drawing embellishment, but the walls, openings placement due), you will have immediately increased the Trust ... "
Partly due to the foregoing, that this house is not too large and complex includes five types of joists length and we have not been taken into account under the terrace roof more gerendahosszait. The floor plan is the kind of kialakításnál
complete inexperience
seen as fitting that the terrain and can not be argued here that the builders SUCH asked for the duty and responsibility of the designer that created the housing and also be good builders comply with the requirements.

The design also includes the scope of responsibility, that tries to talk about certain things or even to persuade the építtetőit that, for example.
- it should be noted that the exhaust gas may not be happy to introduce a food pantry for storage or to the garage through the kitchen & the chamber is not advisable to arrive at a flat
- so too a comfortable kitchen does not fit into the kitchen and the dining room door of one of beszorított (no coincidence that the chairs are also pushed depicted)
- before the kitchen covered terrace can be used practically for nothing, only the structure accomplish good
- static existence of chaos is the thickness of their walls and long
- a whole, a 14-nm flying corridor would have been expected to accommodate at least somewhere in wardrobe, hall cabinet
The roof design of the floor plan can be most felt that all the possible size of room (one room for erroneous data: 9.3 / 12.2 instead of 12.2 / 19.3 nm would be the correct data). The roof of the bathroom with no placement has been thought through, because the drain pipe 125 mm, its size is not an easy rakosgatható, especially over the front door.

These little things are apparent wrote that inexperienced house design made it (signed) of plans. In particular, I was sad when I read the following letter:
Unfortunately, I did not get the visual plan építészemtől, but I carved my software is one smart
Well sloped than planned as such a fundamental duty of the architect was a landscaping plan to create a fair, just, therefore, should not have been set aside from the design either, because then the plan would immediately kiderültek imperfections. The builders always considered layman, so I do not know that you actually
We also act as a design award?
This, unfortunately, a lot of the architect and his architect denominator is abusing and trying to minimal erőbedobással letudni a commission. Not the builders to be "clever little schemes" to obtain and not for him to renderings barkácsolgatni, but the architect, among other reasons because it points to the most important of these are not a few thousand can-programs: a house diagonally sloping land to be realistic presentation. Today, when all this CAD program funds can, I think this is quite simply outrageous.
other plan of the building (click the next photo)
In summary,
what the plan is critically original title suggested that "not too late to reconsider", ie no use made of the complete plan, only one can be advised to seek an architect! could still pofozgatni this house, but neither the layout nor the weight nor the terrain the fit is not as what it is worth to have a very stick to it! Since the construction started, so this suggestion is unfortunately no longer be valid, but perhaps others may learn from such a design mentality. I'm sorry, that only the above, I could write, but as the I wrote at the beginning of "every household carries a lesson", in this case the responsibility of designers and inexperience.
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Dear Lord Nicholas Koos!
I found it by chance and read his newspaper's criticism of the houses to be heading in complete agreement with you for it not possible to see some terrible things designers "the works". The house Csömöri completely legitimate criticism, and this I am writing as a structural engineer, architect, designer E-2 license.
But I know myself that it is not an artist, but also manufacturers (even a thorough, accurate) was born, I do not want "építészes" design houses, but rather turn to the construction plans for making my experience (architectural and structural plans). I spent 33 years with execution, but always when I designed that my brain is trenírozzam.
In my own small way to the wasteful and incompetent fight against the plans and planners - to the builders. Not many friends I have gained .. Mainly concrete structures statics, export plans, expertise in, I will do a review, or to confirm the structure and design of timber structures.
If I can help you with criticism of the plans that the building structure is concerned, I like to be free. I am also very annoying to the superficiality and lack of technical knowledge.
This year we plan to at least 10 had to be recast, often deer or offensive error of iron and concrete wastage due to many millions of items lefaragva.
I hope my comment does not consider the intrusive, just glad a kindred spirit,
regards, Stephen Kőrösi cert. structural engineer.
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Where are the pictures from here?
If you feel like it would be possible / time / anyone give advice on this topic, respectively. comment, it may be that the person would be happy for him.
http://sudi.blog.hu/2011/06/17/kanadai_zsindely