Planning Advice | eye on design.
In recent years, become increasingly popular in the building authority under the advice of a plan, tervzsűrit can operate. Several Council Resolution to request plans and tervzsűrin After attending a very mixed experience.
I usually plan to have smaller-scale buildings (one to four-family houses, extensions, small public buildings, sometimes with a larger block of flats). I'm not saying there is no need to plan the operation of councils, as the profession is very mixed, but I think it could work differently in many places, as currently operating.
Unfortunately, in most places to be included into the tervtanácsra a plan to be fully prepared to be very few places you can "will not be ready 'plan (eg it is not a complete technical description), or high-level outline given. So I just end up, after a lot of work turns out they think does not fit the street scene, design or other kind of house council thought this plot.
We need to know if 10 architects sit down to land on the same concept and design a house, you get 10 different houses. So it is with the council plan as well. So many ideas so many members. It does not matter if this building will be better, and if you do not bang in the whip Now the building at the end.
I was a plan at the Council meeting where the plan viewing and criticizing when you up jumped the plan to Council members by sending out of the room and had to wait outside until an hour arguing and developed a 'unit can be considered' concept, which was listened to, could start the whole design from the front .
In this case the man is still magyarázkodhat the customer that if you plan perfectly legal (the building official artist said), like the builders, was designed according to his needs, then why does not comply with the plan of the members? Why can not the designer of the Council members also plan to design a house right?
And the most asked question: If the plan includes advice about what to my house, what kind of distribution, appearance, they also give money to?
When designing a house is usually not a planning meeting once the builder, but a few sketches, talking, thinking together, lifestyle and future ideas átbeszélése reached after the building's floor plan, weight, appearance of the facade. Often many months of work and the builder and the designer for a completed plan.
This work will be invested very often disappears when a Council plan állásfoglalásnál, 'offer' eg. the following:
- Other types of floor plan concept should be put somewhere else in the bath, toilet, .... anything.
- Non-uniform appearance of the building facade, or a foreign style of the building, although the fit requirements. For example, various sized windows in the house, Mediterranean style, (we live in Hungary, not a Mediterranean country).
- Lower than the Jamb wall to the roof window also can be seen (although there is still room in the window).
- If the room has a window, roof windows do not need it (if the customer specifically asked for and you want to - then the architect should be informed as to costs, because one of the architects responsible for designing cost-effective).
Best of all, when the site plan, or streets, or photos of the environmental state:
Does not fit the street scene, despite the fact that
- the suburban street of small houses will be one of the neighboring houses were built 30-50 years ago, and can not talk about street image formed,
- expanding the existing building courtyard, not visible in the street.
- New parcellázásnál the neighboring sites are empty, a field contrast is.
But I have a plan at the Council meeting, when the building facade appearance, weight or shape is not interested in anyone, after the drawings in front of me to Browsing indicated that the lack of loft on the floor plan Drawing broken (it was a technical description).
In many places, in addition to the legislation complies with the requirements of the plan, is seeking a positive resolution to jury, but where there is enough if the jury gives a just any resolution, and the regular plan obtained the license.
A few times I was in such a way that repeatedly revised the plan to the jury's objections based on (Always on have been thinking of the previous jury was asked), and the third time turned out to be that, hear the jury that they are simply recommendations, and a negative jury still possible to get the building permit only the builders must declare that they do not want to change.
Finally, a positive example, or how it should work:
Anvil, multi-unit condominium plan prepared by licensing. The project plans to the council in digital form should be sent to the Main Office of building. This is good because the design of the members have the opportunity to review the plan and not only see the drawings for the first time when I sit in them. Main Architect of the Office by fax, phone plans are informed by the Council meeting date (an invitation was sent!).
The project started in exactly the advice and the opportunity to present the plan to have a few words. I could say the basic idea of what and why we designed. The plan of the members posts seemed to be not the first time they see the plan, we looked at, but who was fully studied. The individual members separately said their comments and suggestions, not unpleasantly, kioktatóan and even listened to the answers as well. They did not want to change the whole concept, they did not want the building was designed for me, not speaking into the structural design. Under the plan, council meetings, so I did not feel like a little first grade students at the university, who surrounded the correctors only criticize the plan, but he taught.
Very good professional conversation developed, which used the building as well.
It would be nice if the council plan, building more sketches also can be given to the design phase of the center to discover what you want to see the council plan.
It would be nice if the council plan, the environment, street scene fit to address the issue.
It would be nice if the plan is not about Council meetings would you say that the jury how the building would be designed (Respect for the exceptions!).
It would be nice if ........
Replace Esther architect (The author has worked for several years building official performer)
The conclusions to be drawn once again to leave it to readers. Stay tuned for further reports can be read.
related materials
252/2006. (XII.07.) Gov. order. advice about the plan
Design Council | History of: VET, EVM, CMP
Design Council | how do they work?
Design Council | What (or who) is tested?
Design Council | how to live in a builder?
Design Council | an illegitimate? Plan Board's decision
Design Council | how to design the house zsűror?
Design Council | simple roof replacement
Design Council | unsuitable for an architect
Design Council | hunting land protection
Design Council | to be some good ones
Gen. vtanács | designer eye out
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It's really bad gyakolrat when leiskolázzák man. There was a ismereősőm, who was planning something, "I can not go through" ottt the jury and offered him a better designer ....
The customer really thinks that only bad choice .. anniya while the problem is that colleagues are not insiders. Mi9nden city egvannak the "experienced" names. Budapest halmozottabb even more the case.
I had a sign board in a western affair. Transdanubian city downtown. The sign of a company office supplies downtown if he wanted to expose the exterior wall panel storage. The sign board, and logo as well as a totem pole is protected and included in the registration file of a company. The Design Council has announced an hour after the time arrived for the meeting. In spite of an invitation to either me or called as a draft, not the client. (Then why were invited?) The Planning Board has decided that the sign does not fit into the environment (to the 10-storey panel house, which the historic downtown area is the design jury, each member has the design also took part!) In the letter sent out their letters written comments I which I referred to the place I want to sign board shall have the same protection as a historic downtown located in Mc Donalds and Pizza Hut logos, why do not they criticized it. No response. Signboards of the artist left the building after the Planning Council only had the right to comment. No comment!
So this issue is in the kiveséztük koos.hu via a couple of times, but the topic seems eternal.
If you were to ask me:
-How do you plan to hold a brief advice?
-Good.
Elaborating a bit more?
-Not good.
Legenyhébben exceed the powers of the least. Ok, that's not always required to keep their comments, even negative criticism can be authorized only in the presence necessary. Somehow, I feel just a little light incidental to the participants, since we have the responsibility?
Certainly good enough for a positive resolution permitting the passport in my opinion.
Subjectivity transcends everything. If you woke up in a bad mood (lots of dinner, she slept elsewhere ...) and kötözködős mood, the tree can live for five bowels, Council staff also jumps. In another nod to the majority vote, within a good sleep. Again, a parasitic form of the workers managed to sew the neck.
Unfortunately, the theme is eternal, so you will have this article of the body.
The chamber is why, if the plan does not go against the council authoritarian architects?
I think the chamber itself.
Many council plan is discovered, the participants exceeded powers, role confusion, self-fulfillment intentions, but sometimes meaningful, constructive proposals as well. The majority wants to prove he deserves the salary h, but it does not take the trouble to understand the design motivations h, empathic approach to try to plan, design, order form.
One legszánalmasabb experience was when the chief architect (mandatory consultation! Every house you like to be!) Who has already challenged the extension concept, completely ignoring the builder is very relevant aspects (went as far as h consultation at me, offered to builders, h he designed) so well, he also led the jury to the plan for those out there who saw you first. The attitude suspected. Foundation fever, catch your search. Pair of rational thinking when not only blődségek, pompous comments (to plan I) were made, one that you should split into (at least 30-40 million value, the stable structure is 40 years old, min. Partial renovation 10 million). The icing on the cake, if you list last day of the plan was the chief architect. Are picked to pieces by colleagues.
The plan would, thanks to the constructive, empathetic EPHA. engdélyt got the driver, was built, the chief architect is happy with other municipalities.
But you've never had to redesign because of jury house.