A follow-up article
On 20 May 2009 published an illegitimate plan council building permit plan set out in Article utóéletéről wish to report. the end of May 2009, the plan finally arrived Council resolution. The resolution of the Planning Council recommends that the board is designed to function rethink the floor plan and redesign of the crowd. This plan has been agreed with the Council meeting elhangzottakkal.
Last sentence:
"The official authorization of the Planning Council raises no objection, but the above recommendations made by the designer and the builder for consideration can be given.
Eureka!!
I had to give an assurance that they do not want to rework the plan, so that you elkezdődhettek official resolutions requesting the trade, and was able to begin work on road design, road driver licensing.
You should also know the lot, it's a plot handle, the handle length from 80 to 90 m.
Multiple hiánypótoltatások, after additional requests (which is such a large building in spite of prior negotiations was expected) finally reached the final resolution of the expert authorities arrived.
At the beginning of December 2009 we wrote. By phone, I asked the building official artist to the license when you can expect. Asked to take with a fresh title page and a fresh copy of the map. What the hell, this is no longer up there. The next day purchased, declared. Once again a day or two passed, new phone number: When can hope for?
Speaker's response:
The land is not able to issue a building permit because the Planning District, the handle portion of a lot about. 18 to 19 m long section (section side of the road) will be regulated. Until that happens the site will not settle, so it can not be issued a building permit.
The next day, a personal consultation were made as follows:
- The development plan required by the builder of the regulatory plan. Even that part of the capital will be filled from the leszabályozva.
- Capitals Felajálhatjuk the expropriation, to buy, but it can take endless time.
- It is proposed that this area magánúttá nyilváníttassuk (it will be a separate parcel number). To this end, land-sharing application should be submitted.
- The Rapporteur requested that the building permit process for the settlement of land függesztessük up. So should not reject the application, because otherwise everything is fine now (road permit, special authorities, etc.).
To my question, why just now said that this should be resolved because it has always only the handle and wide about the urban vonásról was a question not answered.
In this context, any missing documents, information, verbal mention, none of the consultation, planning and design juries at the Council meeting, the chief architect consultation is not sounded dated 19 May 2008 plan has been administered.
There is no other solution? - We asked.
None, or suspend the proceedings or rejected. - Was the answer.
One solution to the builders of any kind occurred in the teeth, so after a lengthy discussion, and we asked for a date esélylatolgatás the clerk.
2009th the week before Christmas in December
The minutes of the scheduled time for seeing us (at the hearing authority, the building team leader was also present). The clerk asked for help, since we said "we are fighting." Schedules, information, dates, especially dates, etc. for the office.
And behold, the report suggested a compromise, issue the building permit, provided that the handle cut-off area requesting the occupancy permit that must be done. He promised to get the first week of January building permits.
The second week of January 2010: The lecturer is on vacation.
The beginning of the third week in January 2010: The lecturer came back to leave, but have not yet had time to deal with the writing of the license.
Third weekend in January 2010: He wrote!
The beginning of February 2010: We got mail.
The same day champagne opened.
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A. Many times I heard the official duties of licensing third-party companies should be organized, that is to be carried out to other competitive = Maximum authorized arrive every 2-3 weeks. For now the "in" working quietly to death instead of 9-15 to 8-16 elnyomogatják work (I think that I'd be working there) and as we succeed ..... But the Office - The developer should be an ethical relationship, can be recovered. (70-80% of office workers in the course of alkaomatlan after a while that the private sector to work with (so that people átképzésről the State should ensure that such a specialist in Tax Authority, green card publisher, three shift somewhere conveyor belt, things like that)
B, I myself also agree with most reports only dead .... I also run a largish industrial space in authorization of the council plan and the recently concluded redesign .... back then too high, not nice, etc.. But the industrial area of boxes used to / and will build the technológiáank megfelleőn. The builder had a political relationship can take .... and it has passed .... (I was there I was, when the politician, the chief architect sitting together, and at one time was embarrassing, ridiculous, but in Hungary the way to go "in person" while walking)
Congratulations!
The tragedy that this is not an exception.
I was so built by who saw the bureaucratic attitude of the whole abandoned construction site, which is of course not only to their detriment, but the whole country. I do not see the bureaucrats that when the time unnecessarily pulled, unjustified obstacles to licensure, it also hurt themselves, because they just will not pay for what his salary either. I am interested in is that this huge amount of time that the consultations had to be paid to the effective work (planning) instead of paying someone to the designer. Tekeintetben me this is a bad experience. The client, builders do not even want to think how long it takes away a lot of authority, in consultation with public utilities and walking after him. It is generally believed that this fee is included in the design, whether it be any number of times, travel.
The best part is that I see this going on all over the country.
Then you can tell how dare bevállalni period, how many times you can not throw back to the council plan to plan?
Or you can design something to charge the fee because of multiple re-design?
(We had a five flats - which is not required to board plan, but the manager was a bit eager - and six months derivates +5 what we planned)
Who has the time and energy to do so?
Council members believe the plan is. I also sit two week £ 27,500 / plan / person understands. (We have approx. Plan is 10 per seat!) Something else I do not just criticize the plans and I'd appreciate if you come back as often as possible!
Oh, not to mention that these same designers as we are practicing! (Is not this a conflict?)
Hello Everyone
Crashed a bit! Drink brandy!
The office where I work in a 1,000-unit project is being planned since the spring of 2007, my house later that year has been provided. More than two years. A project, which is already at breaking point, or it may be worth the investment priority in the Duma Gyurcsany threshold.
I could not tell you that when we ran into an economic crisis that closed down during all the existing building to help the discount.
Last year we discovered the minimum of one and a half years after starting the project that the number of acres of protected archaeological area.
That settled the land, because the nyélből should be regulated, the regulatory plan should show. This is a regulatory element, which is shown in the map area. A designer when you look at the local regulations, you must request a copy of the map control plan (or the Internet has many places you can watch). I do not think that all the legal elements rágnia mouth to an officer, if he forgets something (which is described), you can show off on it. If you specify a delivery plan and local regulatory rules, the designer suits him kiigazodnia. I, therefore, if you ask a real estate info, I will also review the regulations, because they do not show off very stylish case manager if you leave out something. I think.
To resolve the minutes for each case was an elegant and generous, even if I do not think is correct.
The Land Registry issued a regulatory térképmásolaton line was not on it.
Not even the thought földhivatalira, but the regulatory plan map extract. For up to date with the regulatory elements.
I turn it up from my stomach, then comes to a clerk, a politician who even know what he is and take care of permits, etc..
Do not permitting testimony to her. The law should apply to everyone. Of course, case manager, too! Adhere to deadlines and move on.
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The plan is simply to advise should be eliminated! Washy anyway just smoked the good corruption. If it is everything free or if you will not choke until the customer is not looking for an insider's architect.
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Where there is one profession where colleagues can hinder the other criticizing each other's work. Not have the same right to every privilege an architect to design?
Say, a heart surgeon, a heart transplant before the council goes to a doctor and he questioned how it would do the surgery, or if you have the proper training you can do it for the surgery. Should not be anyone pillory, and not a lousy building, but a man's life is involved.
Whether a lawyer or the lawyer council should be a billionaire Vinnie, say, a contract with its customers and aláíratja before entering the land office / commercial court, etc.. Or simply the qualifications of eligibility due to its chamber, and may perform the work.
Oh, and they really drink brandy
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I agree with everything aglacával!
After only a few months ago on this board I have similar thoughts on the concept of profession within the prevailing conditions.
You just have to watch the local area building codes and regulations, however, that how houses are built line. Series of concrete experience proves that he is not in the inner circle from the impossible lehetetlenebb require local and national standards are met, but who is included in the plan a higher building height greater degree of built-age, not only compliant with building facade cladding. You do not have 38-degree roof and tile roofs, or can be hung on the street front garages, etc.. It is true drink brandy.
The Chamber declared more than once - although less and less - that is NOT advocacy organization.
Budapest Chamber of Architects Statutes § § 2 4 §.
"The Budapest Chamber of Architects designed to ... members of the occupation, they are legal, proper operation and to monitor and check ...
Members of the financial, moral and professional interests represent the architectural profession and the professional and moral authority in this area through the building over to safeguard culture.
Thus, the chamber would be one of the tasks of the professional advocacy.
The question of whose professional interests? ...
Note also that the plan tervzsűrikbe councils and chambers of the delegates one member (usually your local chamber of proof involved in the council's work plan).
Even the best plan in the council chambers even those who are most influential. (At least in rural areas) It is understandable that they would not take action against themselves.
Cad_man:
"The licensing authority tasks outsourced by companies should be organized, that is to be carried out to other competitive"
Outsourcing alone will not be faster but more expensive.
Those who can not be assigned to those directions properly given, then an outside company will be able to?
AA:
Faster and cheaper. 100% of the entrepreneurs 'ambition' that is, less quickly during the same would apply. The entire Public Sector we are who we visszabillenhetne out to where the taxpayers = money for taxpayers and service providers / közszolgává. Although this does not seem too big a problem from here, from me. Report a HUGE problem with the public sector.? Then every point, every level, every area of the institution you have forgotten Who lives and who they should serve. As the Councils plan.
But just try, though it could be organized. I want to see, well, I confess! Steroids with a license can be comfortably 5-8 days. And it was an example-I do not understand why this is not the standard. But only a superficial cc typical example. The depth of the rough.
But that's a separate blog :) ......
I worked for a long time performer, I can only say that a lot of unnecessary administration. More often than not has been quick to issue a building permit simple (even if all the paper was added and the plan was in perfect order), or a demolition permit within 30 days, because then the eyes of the senior leadership has been suspected of corruption.
The building permit can actually look through a couple of days, can be written, when in the designer and the builder. News Although a lot of time körítésként necessary paperwork.
Administration. In today's times people already suffering from the life of all outstanding territorial. so rightly say, = "to cover the paper is the paper". The number of social policy at the time the plan went through smoothly, softly over 2-4 days without any effort ... and liked it so much. After all, if so, you could devote more time to plan, but it remains one of the designer authorizing months 2 months. And the design you create tens of millions for it, and the Office ..... just approve it. I hope I will be putting every once remdbe.